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[Da RIFT FORUMS][ENG] TACMAN guide

Aperto da Shaffer, Maggio 21, 2013, 08:47:27 AM

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Silvercoso

faccio un post boss per boss cosi' se ne parla di ogni singolo boss dammi qualche minuto


cmq come dici tu su due target e' possibile ma 2 target non e' piu' ST :)

Shaffer

Quello sulla nb sin è un altro discorso ancora, dove serve St senza nulla D'altro ne target swap ne movimento. E essendo melee. Si può fare? Si. Ma non sempre ed è tutt'altro che la spec universale.

Il fatto che tutti girino con queste 3 spec dimostra che servono tutte, di fight in fight.

Su 2 target son convinto che la tacman vince, se è necessario e possibile.

Silvercoso

non centra complicata o no i dati sono nb/sin>mm>tactman in ST detto da tutti i rogue quindi se proprio si vuol fare tanto DPS VERO serve la nb/sin. certo se vogliamo solo i numeroni sul tracker invece la tactman e' quella perfetta. ma i numeroni ( sugli addini) non tirano giu' il boss

Shaffer

Beh secondo la guida invece è adatta a quasi tutto. Tra l'altro scritta da uno dei migliori rogue al mondo.

Io penso che giocarla bene sia molto complicato e che per questo pare che non renda im ST ma non è così

Silvercoso

ripeto quanto detto sopra. ti fa fare numeroni sugli ADD ma sul BOSS se ne fa poco e alla fine il boss va in enrage. in ST e' nettamente inferiore al mm.

serve in pochi pochissimi scontri ( il secondo in HM per esempio) negli altri e' una perdita di dps reale.

Checo

Provata e ancora rolla bene come DPS  :cool:  se ovviamente non si scazza la rotation!!!

Spec che ogni rouge, a mio parere, dovrebbe farla ed impararla, perchè potrà diventare utile con il progress!  :cool:

Cheers  :bottle:

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Checo

Citazione di: "Shaffer"Si scusa, era un copia incolla prima di sapere se la devo tradurre, aggiorno il post con la spec

Grazie!  :rock:

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Shaffer

Si scusa, era un copia incolla prima di sapere se la devo tradurre, aggiorno il post con la spec

Silvercoso

serve per il secondo di FT in Hard Mode ci siamo ancora molto lontani :)

Checo

Riusciresti a linkare la build?
Perchè non è semplice questa spec, ma credo sia fondamentale per il progress di alcuni boss di EE e FT, almeno così ho sentito! :)

Grazie :D

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Shaffer

The Build:
    http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.jspa#Akx2484/T8FhaF8kl0/y">http://rift.magelo.com/en/soultree.jspa ... FhaF8kl0/y


    The Abilities/Legend:

    Damage/Builders:
    GT - Glacial Torrent - Damaging AoE ability; Adds 1 stack of Temperature Inversion to each enemy hit per tick, causing 10% more damage from infernal torrent per stack (more on this later)
    IT - Infernal Torrent - Damaging AoE ability; adds 1 stack of Internal Combustion per tic (DoT ticks); Removes 1 stack of Temperature Inversion per tic (more on this later)
    EB - Empyrean Bolt - Standard builder
    NB - Necrotic Bolt - High damage aoe ability to all enemies between you and target of this ability; ; Has no CD if used on a target sub 30% health; 10s CD
    IB - Infernal Beam - High damage over 15s to all enemies between you and the target of this ability; 15s CD

    Finishers:
    ER - Empyrean Ray - High damage 1.5s cast finisher
    CBl - Curative Blast - Small HoT on 10 raid members
    TP - Torrent Primer - 30s buff to torrent damage by 8% per combo point used; Removes 5 stacks of Torrent Overload

    Others/Combat Buffs/Utility:
    CC - Curative Core - Small HoT for 15s to all nearbye allies
    PC - Power Core - 10% damage buff to entire raid for 15s; 1min CD
    NC - Necrotic Core - Small DoT for 15s to all nearbye enemies
    OtD - On the Double - 50% personal movement speed buff for 5s; 30s CD
    Deaden - Ranged interrupt with 5s silence on successful interrupt; 15s CD
    CR - Curative Remote - Small heal each time any ally strikes an enemy with this applied to them
    Barrier Remote - 20% of your maximum health as a personal absorb shield; 1min CD
    BR - Battle Remote - 20% bonus damage for 10s; 1min CD

    Passive Buffs:
    Restorative Engine - Small heal to 10 raid members on use of Empyrean Bolt
    Curative Engine - Small heal to self upon taking damage
    Necrotic Engine - Lowers torrent damage by 30%; Increases bolt and ray damage by 30%
    Virulent Poison - 20% chance to proc a small amount of damage on targets hit by abilities; Does not proc from torrents
    EM - Electrified Munitions - Small damage to enemies hit by damaging ranged abilities; Does not proc from torrents



    Macros:

    Builder with stopcasting to end unwanted over-channeling of torrents
    #show Empyrean Bolt
    stopcasting
    cast empyrean bolt

    Power Core bound with Battle Remote for optimal use of stacking damage buffs
    #show Power Core
    cast Power Core
    cast battle remote
    y I'VE GOT THE POWER! (10% bonus raid damage for 15s)



    Rotations:

    There are 3 ways to play this spec, 1 is easy, 1 is very easy, and 1 is a little bit harder and I don't want to spend additional time going over (you can PM me on these forums or contact me in game if you actually want to do this to exacting perfection).

    Personal Buffs:
    Virulent Poison
    Electrified Munitions
    Restorative Engine


    Very Easy Method (rotation)

    Starting Combat:
    (If starting at 5 combo points) CC -> TP -> GT full channel to 7 stack Temperature Inversion -> IT -> IB -> GT -> IT -> EB -> TP -> GT -> IT -> Core -> GT -> IT -> EB -> ER -> NB
    (If starting at no combo points) Before the tank pulls, channel 4 torrents off in a random direction to start at a 4stack of Expanded Torrents: EB -> CC -> TP -> GT full channel to 7 stack Temperature Inversion -> IT -> IB -> GT -> IT -> EB -> ER -> GT -> IT -> Core -> GT -> IT -> EB -> ER -> NB

    Standard Rotation for 100%-31% Enemy HP
    Block 1: [GT -> IT -> IB -> GT -> IT -> EB -> TP ]
    Block 2: [GT -> IT -> (PC>CC) -> GT -> IT -> EB -> ER -> NB]

    This rotation lasts 15.5s and you lose .5s of uptime from Cores and Infernal Torrent.

    If you have GCD loss due to lag or are familiarizing yourself with this spec remove Necrotic Bolt from the end of Block 2 and start back at Block 1 after Empyrean Ray.

    By spacing your infernal beam and cores between torrents you provide a small amount of time of energy regen between torrent pairs and prevent stacks of Internal Combustion from falling off the enemy(s) by preventing ever having EB -> ER -> IB -> Core -> GT ->lost gcd(s) from movement/lag/badness causing more than 6s between IT's

    To simplify things to binds, I will provide example binds and the rotation numerically:
    GT = 1
    IT = 2
    EB = 3
    TP = 4
    IB = 5
    ER = 6
    PC = 7
    CC = 8
    NB = 9

    With this set-up, the rotation becomes [1,2,5,1,2,3,4], [1,2,(7>8),1,2,3,6,9]

    For AoE dps replace Empyrean Ray with Torrent primer in Block 2 and be sure to target the target farthest away from you, and position yourself so that the rest of the enemies are between you and that target.

    Rotation for 30%-0% Enemy HP
    1) Turn on Necrotic Engine
    2) Spam Necrotic bolt, use Infernal Beam on cooldown
    3) Every 30s use EB -> CB to maintain Primer Amplification
    4) Use PC/BR on CD
    5) #winning


    Easy Method (priority)

    Priority for 100%-31%
    ( PC/BR > CC)
    \/
    IB
    \/
    (at 5CP's) TP (If buff is missing or energy starved)
    \/
    (at 5CP's) ER
    \/
    (at 4stack Expanded Torrents) EB
    \/
    GT (If Temperature Inversion is at 4 or less stacks)
    \/
    IT

    Rotation for 30%-0% Enemy HP
    1) Turn on Necrotic Engine
    2) Spam Necrotic bolt, use Infernal Beam on cooldown
    3) every 30s use EB -> CB to maintain Primer Amplification
    4) Use PC/BR on CD
    5) #winning

    Notes:
    -DO NOT let Internal Combustion or Temperature Inversion fall off your targets.
    -Attempt to align your first power core with Flaring Power, etc., or make sure to know where you are in a PC rotation if your guild uses other raid members in tactician specs (only 4 should be in the rotation).
    -Generally, on a single target fight with no loss of gcd's, you will use Empyrean Ray TWICE as your finisher between Torrent Primers.
    -If your raid does not have a tactard and you are light on AoE heals or there is an AoE spike incoming, use Curative Remote to provide additional healing to the derpy deeps and replace Curative Core with Necrotic Core (Curative Remote will provide Conservation of Energy ticks practically on it's ICD for healing).
    -Do not use barrier remote or OtD on CD unless necessary to survive; it's a waste of energy.
    -You should NOT be interrupting; make those lazy *** tanks or warriors do it.
    -The reason for use of Curative Core over Necrotic Core is that healing and damage have separate ICD's on Conservation of energy, thus providing a greater net income of energy and less starvation by using Curative Core.
    -You do not use Rending Munitions because you do not use a single physical ability.
    -This spec is very good for solo'ing as well, just use curative engine over restorative



    Applicable Raid Fights:

    These are the raid fights that this spec shines on:

    FT:
    Gelidra - Obliterates the adds and does reasonable ST dps with minimal target swap penalties.
    2-tank Twins - Being able to bring the full force of your ST dps down on both bosses makes this spec nearly unbeatable in dps on this fight if 2-tanking.
    Crucia - While you do not want every rogue running this spec on Crucia, it provides additional power cores for raid dps boosts as well as having range, minimal target swap issues, and incredible sub 30% ST dps for the annoying phase.

    EE:
    Progenitor - It's always good to hit numerous targets at a time. Depending on raid positioning, you may be capable of doing this to hit both the current target and the shielded target as well as cleaving both the last mini and Saetos himself at the end
    Matriarch - The adds melt in the wake of a party of rogues creating a single directed super torrent, plus moar power cores!

    TDQ:
    Jultharin - Why swap off the boss when you can continue to dps him while killing the wisps?

    I would personally use NB/sin or 61sin on every fight not mentioned, just as I feel there are no applicable raid fights where 61MM or 61rgr will outshine a different rogue spec.

    If you are looking for guides on those 2 specs, they have been provided in this same section of the forums by Mayi (for nb/sin) and Orangu (for 61sin), and I would suggest having those specs.



    Final Notes:

    Tada, there it is. A guide I didn't want to write and spent too much time doing so. If you legitimately are interested in min/maxxing the Single Target DPS of this spec, you can contact me on these forums or in game. When properly done, it's ST is competitive with/above that of 61MM but with the raid benefit of Power Core. Please, before contacting me, make sure you have a raid 4 piece and are familiar enough with using the specs in raid situations that you are capable of executing fights without losing target on torrents due to movement. I feel this is a mandatory spec for all raiding rogues to carry, as it is THAT GOOD.

    As per norm, constructive criticism and healthy feedback are appreciated



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